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Marcus Hayes Will Not Tolerate Your Criticism, Nerd

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Marcus Hayes is the Philadelphia Phillies beat writer for the Daily News. He apparently also doesn’t like statistics like on base percentage and on base percentage plus slugging.

Over on Phillies blog The Good Phight, a blogger emailed Marcus Hayes about some story Hayes wrote in the DN. The blogger, one “jonk,” intros his post with this piece of unintentional hilarity:

We have the word “Phight” in our name, but I find that we aren’t putting up much of a fight at all. We run parallel instead of perpendicular. At least for me, that is going to change. Philadelphia is known for it’s hard hitting sports “journalism” and being tough on the players. The problem is that the “journalists” get a free pass. Well, not from me and not any longer. I am tired of the animosity and disdain that the sports writers have for the general fan and for analytical thought.

Anyway, jonk doesn’t post what story it was, but he did send Hayes a critical email, which we can all assume it was as reasonable as the paragraph above. Here’s some of Hayes’ response:

OBP and OPS are geek numbers, especially for run-producers. I’d rather have my 3-4-5 guys drive the best strike they see rather than wait for the perfect pitch and jog down the baseline.

Sabremetrics are the bastion of wannabes who never could quite figure out which hand the mitt went on, a false industry created and fueled by people whose association with the game always will be vicarious, and, frankly, pathetic.

As opposed to sports writers, who are clearly… former… major league… baseball… players? Ha ha, remember when the Phillies were short in the bullpen and they got Marcus Hayes to close that one night? Man, that was awesome.

Fighting the good phight [The Good Phight]

  1. Andy Says: Aug 20 5:02 PM

    but isn’t Marcus Hayes right?

  2. yt Says: Aug 20 5:13 PM

    No. He is an idiot.

  3. mike Says: Aug 20 5:36 PM

    I am only an amateur baseball geek, but, uh, OBS and OPS are pretty good numbers to go by I think. How can you be opposed to innovative stats that more accurately measure a player’s effect on a game? As a baseball writer, wouldn’t you welcome measurements that help you analyze the game more in-depth? Or is it really just about some dude that just wacks a ball with a stick and runs around in a circle without getting tagged?

  4. Anonymous Says: Aug 20 6:07 PM

    They should stick to writing about Larry Bowa and Larry Mendte in bikinis.

  5. Sloopy Says: Aug 20 6:12 PM

    I drank in the sun & pissed on the moon & stole a blanky from a polar bear & snapped it at the cops. They gave chase pretty good but I lost ‘em when I zigged & they thought that I zagged. Anyways, I don’t have time for these stats, I am about to fart real powerful & blast off into outer space, man.
    Don’t try to follow me…..

  6. David Says: Aug 20 7:51 PM

    As a frequent visitor and poster of baseball blogs, I cannot agree quickly enough with Marcus Hayes on this one.

  7. Anonymous Says: Aug 20 8:15 PM

    People who frequently visit and post at baseball blogs are losers who can’t be trusted.

  8. Anonymous Says: Aug 20 9:08 PM

    Hey Hang on there Sloopy
    What the Frig are you talkin about!
    Did a new batch of California Chronic just come in??
    or are you just strange?

  9. Rich Says: Aug 21 4:21 PM

    I emailed Marcus Hayes asking why he thought Burrell wasn’t doing a good job. He responded and said Burrell is paid to drive in runs. I wrote back and showed him that only Ryan Howard was driving in runs at a better rate with RISP. He wrote back and said Burrell is paid to drive in runs.

    Hayes is an idiot, plain and simple.

  10. Hank Says: Aug 23 1:46 PM

    Marcus Hayes once grabbed my ass in a bar - twice.

  11. Marcus Hayes Says: Aug 23 2:10 PM

    Numberheads,

    Just letting you blogicians know:
    No longer will you, or anyone else, be afforded the privilege (burden?) of corresponding with me. When I reply to an individual it is intended to be a confidential response. Since I can’t trust you, I assume I can’t trust anyone.
    It is not meant to be posted on anyone’s blog, and certainly not on a for-profit entity of a direct competitor.
    So, no more responses. Can’t trust you, so don’t bother writing.
    But then, if you hold my replies in such low esteem, why bother writing?
    Of course, this gives many of you more time for your World of Warcraft RPG endeavors.
    Happy gaming.
    Hope the eczema clears up.
    M

  12. mike Says: Aug 23 3:00 PM

    Uh, maybe people wouldn’t go posting your emails on the internet if you didn’t respond to them by calling your readers eczema-ridden, role playing nerds. More bees with honey, or something like that.

    Just sayin’.

  13. jonk Says: Aug 23 4:01 PM

    Marcus,

    What, you mean we won’t have the honor of you ridiculing and insulting us in emails anymore? Talk about a bummer!

    Love,
    Sabreboy

  14. Matt Says: Aug 23 4:09 PM

    Marcus, I thought you had a life? How do you find time in your busy social calender to read blogs? Nerd.

  15. Jim Says: Aug 23 5:03 PM

    I am the nerd in question here. The whole thing is on my blog, Broad Street Bastards.

    http://tinyurl.com/33485v

  16. Jim Says: Aug 23 5:09 PM

    Should I officially change my name to Sabreboy?

    http://broadstreetbastards.blogspot.com/

  17. Bill B. Says: Aug 24 7:16 AM

    I really doubt that was actually Marcus Hayes.

    It doesn’t surprise me to see someone in the journalism industry act so immature and be so close-minded. That has been the status quo of journalists for as long as I can remember.

    The days of Edward R. Murrow are long gone. Now, it’s find some schtick and stick with it. Do whatever it takes to stir up controversy and sell papers. Fudge facts and kick truth under the rug if that’s what you have to do.

    Bloggers will make paid journalists in all subjects obsolete within 10 years. Bloggers produce higher-quality work, research better, and aren’t pinned to corporate responsibilities such as selling papers. The only money bloggers ever get from their work are from the advertisements, and they only get pennies on the dollar for that.

    Hayes probably realizes some of my points — that his job security may soon be fading, along with newspaper vendors as a whole — and is bitter about that.

    Me, I don’t buy newspapers anymore. Hayes only reinforces every reason I have for not doing so.

  18. Bill B. Says: Aug 24 8:58 AM

    Join me in boycotting Marcus Hayes. That means the Philadelphia Daily News, Daily News Live, and ESPN’s First Take.

    Marcus Hayes, You’re On Notice

  19. mike Says: Aug 28 11:32 PM

    Hey, Bill B. Where do bloggers get their research from? Journalists? Newspapers?

    I’m not defending Marcus B. Hayes, but I don’t think him being a petulant idiot marks the end of the era of noble journalism and Edward R. Murrow-ness. Blogs will not replace the news media because, well, 95 percent of blogs are horrible (this excellent one excluded). The very notion that bloggers could ever replace journalists is a notion propagated by the media itself.

    Without the media, blogs don’t have any source material. Period.

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